About

About

Key members to the organisation of Pastiche are Dagmar Cloosterman and Gwendolynn de Boer. They are also founders of the project and study music in the Netherlands. Below they explain what motivates them to organise Pastiche.

Dagmar Cloosterman
Hogeschool Leiden, Music Therapy
01-02-1996

Murphys 14 sep 17 Maarten Willems
 

Pastiche is a search in which I threw myself. At the beginning I was thinking about great ambitions, ideals, deep philosophical ideas that connect all lose parts to one… Now I see that that just the small, sometimes intangible things bind me to Pastiche. The people we speak to, who tell about their culture, their music and their passions. But also the feeling of suddenly understanding a certain song, the moment that song becomes accessible. A process which, for me, sometimes takes months. One of the ideals I had when I started was to connect everything: to connect different people, different cultures, to share art and knowledge. What I am now learning is to connect myself again and again with new cultures, styles of music and people. It is something which happens automatically once I open up to let it happen, watch closely, listen and keep an inquisitive mind. With every meeting, every time I really connect, other aspects of life are highlighted. Thus I experience the enriching of my life. A part of the richness there is everywhere is shared with us through art, philosophy, knowledge and music. This I like to share and pass it on. Dagmar

 

Gwendolynn de Boer
Conservatoire of Amsterdam, Music in education
02-11-1995

Murphys 14 sep 2017
Love – passion – appears in different forms: the overwhelming kind, the easygoing, happy and content kind – and the point where this stoic air becomes more passionate and transfers into addiction. For me, this started with an Irish ballad and continued with my acquaintance to new rhythms and scales within the Mediterranean music and the enchantment when hearing my first Tango. From that point I realized how many undiscovered worlds are lying hidden within different styles of music. All with their own richness in musical language, from different rhythms, keys, tonalities, tuning, instruments, totally unknown musical concepts… Discovering these worlds leads to an unbelievably broadening horizon. And not only in a musical sense. I like to think of different styles of music as a reflection of a people, a culture. This can be a very old culture with primitive origins, wherein for example the Indonesian gamelan music and the Mbira tradition from Zimbabwe developed. Or it can be a more recent culture, wherein urban styles like Fado and Rembetiko developed. But these styles have of course roots that go back on earlier cultures and tracing back origins one find’s that both cultural and musical aspects are in the end all intertwined. However, though this may all sound very romantic, for me it wasn’t a matter of love at first sight. I disliked music from Ireland and music from the Mediterranean at first. Also Fado, Flamenco, music from Java didn’t appeal to me. So why am I now so passionate about these different styles? Why would I want to recommend someone to listen to music which does not correspond with the taste of that person? In my answer I willingly admit that I find taste one the most fascinating things in life. But I think taste is not the key figure in deciding whether we like something or not. I think there’s an even more important ingredient: understanding. I have spoken to a lot of people, both musicians and listeners to music, who felt resistance at first when hearing a new type of music for the first time. But after a while of listening and sometimes playing as well, they started to appreciate the style. And is it not like this with all things in life? Something unknown does not appeal to you as much as something trusted, it might even scare you – of course there are these exceptions, the moments of love at first sight, but most of the time these moments are indeed the exception – not the rule. This is why I hope to inspire other people to search for this uncomfortable sounds – listen to them, talk to people of the culture where the music originated, read about this culture, judge all the strange habits the ‘out of tuned instruments’ and then find suddenly this moment where an unexpected shift takes place. The sounds start to make sense, the culture has beautiful expressions which have a so far unknown nuance- for they’re unique to this people. The Portugese found out Saudade which manifests itself within the Fado, the Duende can only be found within the Flamenco and there are more complex examples that can only be expressed in musical terms. For me, who tends to look for projects to accomplish things that are simply not possible, an obstacle in this journey of discovering new types of music is that I will never be able to comprehend every style of music to its full depth, let alone be able to play them all in the best possible way. Also, the fact that one is not born in a certain culture decides that the person as ‘an outsider’ will never be able to play the music as somebody who is one with the culture- since culture and music are one. Now I realize this and have peace with it. I’d like to encourage everybody to the discovery. For me, the continuing means that I keep feeling enriched by getting acquainted with different styles and search for more layers in the styles I am already trusted with more. It doesn’t mean that when you love Fado, Rembetiko, music from Scotland, Scandinavia, the Balkan and you did not grow up with the music you playing an unauthentic version of the music is worth nothing. We are living in a globalizing world, where you are perfectly allowed to share your inspiration. With your way of playing the music – you become part of the tradition. As long as you are aware of the origins and respect them. Gwendolynn

 

Dagmar Cloosterman
Hogeschool Leiden, Muziek therapie
01-02-1996

Murphys 14 sep 15 Maarten Willems

Pastiche is voor mij een zoektocht waar ik me in heb gestort. Aan het begin dacht ik heel theoretisch over grote ambities, idealen, achterliggende gedachten die alles met elkaar verbonden. Nu zie ik dat het kleinere, soms ongrijpbare dingen, zijn die me aan Pastiche binden. De mensen die we spreken, die vertellen over hun cultuur, muziek en passies. Maar ook het gevoel dat je hebt als je een liedje opeens begrijpt, als het ook gevoelsmatig toegankelijk wordt. Dat is een proces wat bij mij soms maanden duurt.

Een van de idealen die ik had toen ik begon was anderen met elkaar verbinden: mensen verbinden, culturen verbinden, kunst en kennis uitwisselen. Nu leer ik steeds weer om mezelf te verbinden met steeds nieuwe culturen, muziekstijlen en mensen. Het gaat automatisch als ik me openstel, goed kijk, luister en me leergierig opstel. Elke ontmoeting, elke keer dat ik me echt verbind worden er andere aspecten van het leven belicht en wordt mijn leven rijker.

Een klein deel van de rijkdom die er overal is wordt met ons gedeeld en die kunst, filosofie, kennis en muziek wil ik delen en doorgeven. Dagmar

 

Gwendolynn de Boer
Conservatorium van Amsterdam, Docent Muziek
02-11-1995

Murphys 14 sep 12 Maarten Willems
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